Is the new V4 T a mistake ?

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   I doubt any thing with a 1200 lump will get the name "mille".

It seems that fully fared speorts tourers are not the growth market that the  VFR, Sprint, Futura et all once targetted.

What has become exciting IMO is the  "fun tourers" as depicted by the KTM 990 SMT, the latest Ducati multistrada et al.

These are bikes that have max "hoon" capability mixed with the ability to tour (at least in a European context) very much in the manner I use my Tuoldo now.

What i want is about  110 to 130 BHP at about 185 to 200 Kgs with a fairly light comfortable lean forward  if not straight backed sitting position which befits my 6'2" frame. I want light flickable handling that allows me to enjoy "technical" roads yet does not give me back ache after 300 miles.

If I want to drop down behind a small screen or wind deflector thats Ok but I do not want to see the road thru a tall chunk of plastic. Neither do I want to battle with wire wheels.

So I would hope that the next mode is a 1200 Shiver / Dorso cross. (not a Futura/ Caponord cross). 

It would have the same frame, and nominally the same engine (hopefully a 1200 V twin at circa 130BHP) and same wheels /tyres and general geometry. But then the buyer gets to choose 

The suspension/ brake  grade (Factory or R)
The Tank capacity large or standard (T or S)
Some tuning goodies (exhausts etc as now....akra etc) 
Eye candy stuff (belly pans, huggers, carbon fibre, colour coded panels etc )
Some luggage options.

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Tilt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 August 2006 Location: Brackley Online Status: Offline Posts: 418	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tilt Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Is the new V4 T a mistake ? Posted: 25 March 2010 at 11:50pm
	I doubt any thing with a 1200 lump will get the name "mille". It seems that fully fared speorts tourers are not the growth market that the VFR, Sprint, Futura et all once targetted. What has become exciting IMO is the "fun tourers" as depicted by the KTM 990 SMT, the latest Ducati multistrada et al. These are bikes that have max "hoon" capability mixed with the ability to tour (at least in a European context) very much in the manner I use my Tuoldo now. What i want is about 110 to 130 BHP at about 185 to 200 Kgs with a fairly light comfortable lean forward if not straight backed sitting position which befits my 6'2" frame. I want light flickable handling that allows me to enjoy "technical" roads yet does not give me back ache after 300 miles. If I want to drop down behind a small screen or wind deflector thats Ok but I do not want to see the road thru a tall chunk of plastic. Neither do I want to battle with wire wheels. So I would hope that the next mode is a 1200 Shiver / Dorso cross. (not a Futura/ Caponord cross). It would have the same frame, and nominally the same engine (hopefully a 1200 V twin at circa 130BHP) and same wheels /tyres and general geometry. But then the buyer gets to choose The suspension/ brake grade (Factory or R) The Tank capacity large or standard (T or S) Some tuning goodies (exhausts etc as now....akra etc) Eye candy stuff (belly pans, huggers, carbon fibre, colour coded panels etc ) Some luggage options.
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AladinsaneUK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Founding Member Joined: 15 July 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 593	Post Options Post Reply Quote AladinsaneUK Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 March 2010 at 10:41am
	fair choices with the exception of the tank size choice, that does sound an awful lot like the standard falco these days.....

pleb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Club Member Joined: 16 June 2008 Location: MANC Online Status: Offline Posts: 182	Post Options Post Reply Quote pleb Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 March 2010 at 2:45pm
	Bigger tank on MY T deffo, can do more than 100 miles or so now without getting arse ache with me new seat, woo hoo more razzin No need to get off and do the John Wayne.
	Always be prepared for sponteneity.